Question & Answer
Man asks questions. And man should look to what His Creator has revealed to determine the steps of his life and especially in the church that belongs to His appointed Son, Jesus, whom God made both Lord and Christ (Acts 2:36). If man does not, he should not be surprised with the ill consequences that will come. The thoughts and feelings of man are easily swayed by the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life. God has given us an objective standard that “is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path” (Psalm 119:105). Therefore, we must answer these questions from the word of God and respect it in the full weight of authority that it deserves.
1. Is homosexuality a sin?
Genesis 18:20
20 Then the Lord said, “Because the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is great and their sin is very grave,
Genesis 19:5-7, 23-24
5 And they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them.” 6 Lot went out to the men at the entrance, shut the door after him, 7 and said, “I beg you, my brothers, do not act so wickedly.
23 The sun had risen on the earth when Lot came to Zoar. 24 Then the Lord rained on Sodom and Gomorrah sulfur and fire from the Lord out of heaven.
In Genesis 18:20, God reveals to Abraham that Sodom and Gomorrah are to be destroyed for their grave sins. Abraham pleads for the lives of the righteous people living there, particularly his nephew Lot, and his family. God agrees to spare the cities if ten righteous people can be found (18:23-32). Two angels are sent to Lot in Sodom but are met with a wicked mob who are then struck blind by the angelic guests (19:1-11). The wicked mob that accosts the angels are seeking to know them carnally, as is made clear by Lot offering his daughters instead. Jude’s (1:7) mentioning of Sodom and Gomorrah’s indulgence in sexual immorality and “unnatural lust” as examples in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire clearly demonstrates at least part of Sodom and Gomorrah’s wickedness that brought about their destruction was their practicing of homosexuality, and therefore it is clearly a sin, a transgression against God’s law, God’s order for His creation.
Further, in Ezekiel 16:49-50 as God is justifying himself in the desolations he is about to bring upon Jerusalem; and very largely, in this chapter, he shows the prophet, and orders him to show the people, that He did but punish them as their sins deserved.
49 Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had arrogance, abundant food and careless ease, but she did not help the poor and needy. 50 Thus they were haughty and committed abominations before Me. Therefore I removed them when I saw it.
As we continue to answer our first question with great thoroughness, now we go directly to the Law that was given to the nation of Israel, God’s chosen people, through Moses.
Leviticus 20:13
13 If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them.
It could not be any clearer than this. Yes, homosexuality is a sin. It is a transgression or breaking of God’s law, God’s designed order for His creation.
But in our thoroughness we continue, and we also find in God’s law through Moses that even dressing as the opposite sex was an abomination to God.
Deuteronomy 22:5
5 “A woman shall not wear man’s clothing, nor shall a man put on a woman’s clothing; for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God.
But another question we need to answer in this regard, is if anything changes from the Old Testament to the New Testament.
Remember the passages in Genesis and the situation with Sodom and Gomorrah was prior to the giving of the Law through Moses to the nation of Israel. The passages from Leviticus and Deuteronomy were a part of the Law given through Moses specifically to the nation of Israel. It is clear to this point that all of mankind was held accountable to the fact that God had revealed that homosexuality was a transgression against His law and the order of His creation and an abomination to Him.
1A. Does Jesus’ new covenant allow for homosexuality or is it still a sin?
Romans 1:18-32
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. 21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. 25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; 32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.
Again, it is clear that homosexuality is a product of a depraved mind, and that “those who practice such things are worthy of death,” as well as those who give approval to those who practice them.
Further consider, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11:
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.
Again, it is made clear that homosexuality is a sin. It is unrighteousness. It is a breaking of God’s law, the way He has ordered His creation. Those who practice such unrighteousness will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Instead of pretending like it is not a sin or falsely believing we cannot judge others (we will examine this from God’s word shortly), we should be doing as Paul did, which is teaching them that it is a sin, and striving to get them to put away that sin and be “washed”, sanctified, and justified in the name of Jesus.
Lastly, consider 2 Timothy 2:20-22:
20 Now in a large house there are not only gold and silver vessels, but also vessels of wood and of earthenware, and some to honor and some to dishonor. 21 Therefore, if anyone cleanses himself from these things, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified, useful to the Master, prepared for every good work. 22 Now flee from youthful lusts and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, with those who call on the Lord from a pure heart.
Let us strive to be a vessel for honor, sanctified, useful to the Master, prepared for every good work. Those who practice homosexuality are a vessel to dishonor and of no use to the Master. This is a tragic state of being. May we be filled with love and compassion for these people and call them out of unrighteousness to pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace.
Homosexuality is not an identity. It is a choice. A choice to satisfy one’s unlawful lust of the flesh and commit sexual immorality. It is a sin and an abomination to God, who created those who are participating in it. He did not create them for such an act or purpose. Therefore, it is an act of unrighteousness and those who practice unrighteousness will not inherit the kingdom of God.
2. What should we do when a member of Jesus’ church is practicing sin?
First of all, remember that the church belongs to Jesus (Matthew 16:18). He is the head of the body, the church (Colossians 1:18).
With that understanding, we must do all things within the church according to His authority. Our own thoughts and feelings carry no weight unless they are in line with what God has revealed in relation to Jesus’ church, which is His body.
Secondly, notice that the question says “practicing” sin. We are all sinners and have fallen short of the glory of God. We all sin and make mistakes. Of course, when we are baptized into the one body (1 Corinthians 12:13) that does not mean that we will never make a mistake again, never sin again. We are not perfect, but we have been made clean by the blood of Christ. John relates it this way:
1 John 1:5-10
5 This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all. 6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth; 7 but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.
Therefore, “practicing” sin is when we continue in a sin as a part of our lifestyle. It is a refusal to repent, acknowledge our wrongdoing before God and then bear fruit in keeping with repentance (Matthew 3:8). When we sin, we are to confess that what we have done is sin and ask God to forgive us and then seek to stop doing that sin. We cannot practice sin or “walk in the darkness” and then pretend like we have fellowship with God who is in the light.
Now let us answer question number two specifically.
1 Corinthians 5:1-13
It is actually reported that there is immorality among you, and immorality of such a kind as does not exist even among the Gentiles, that someone has his father’s wife. 2 You have become arrogant and have not mourned instead, so that the one who had done this deed would be removed from your midst.
3 For I, on my part, though absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged him who has so committed this, as though I were present. 4 In the name of our Lord Jesus, when you are assembled, and I with you in spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus, 5 I have decided to deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of his flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
6 Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough? 7 Clean out the old leaven so that you may be a new lump, just as you are in fact unleavened. For Christ our Passover also has been sacrificed. 8 Therefore let us celebrate the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
9 I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; 10 I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. 11 But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? 13 But those who are outside, God judges. Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.
Remember Paul spent much time with the Christians at Corinth (Acts 18:8-11), a year and six months at one time. He was not writing to strangers, but to family. They are all one in the body of Christ. Therefore, what we are reading about here is family discipline. This is what we are to do in order to save someone who is practicing sin from destruction. This is not something we do because we hate them. This is what we do because we love them, we want to save them from the consequences of practicing sin as well as protect other people in the body of Christ from falling into the same sin.
Notice the following:
(v. 1-2) Paul is pointing out their arrogance. They should have mourned such behavior and removed the person who had done such deed from among them.
(v. 3-5) Paul, although not currently present with them, has already judged the one who has committed such sexual immorality. Yes, he made a righteous judgment just like Jesus taught (John 7:24). Notice Paul’s purpose is to save the person. This is discipline. If nothing is done, and the person continues in this relationship practicing this sin they will suffer the eternal consequences. Those who practice such unrighteousness will not inherit the kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:9-11). There is another reason for removing the one who is practicing sexual immorality and it is revealed in the next verses.
(v. 6-8) A little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough meaning if you allow someone who is practicing sin to remain among you it will then spread throughout the congregation. It will leaven the whole lump. Instead, Paul urges them to remain unleavened in Christ with sincerity and truth.
(v. 9-13) Lastly, Paul explains that we must learn to live in the world among immoral people, but not be like them. He instructed them to not associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person---not even to eat with such a one. Paul is specifically teaching them to judge those who are in the church. “Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.” Paul is not addressing the immoral people of the world. When it comes to the world, our mission is to seek and save the lost. This is done by preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ and letting God give the increase (1 Corinthians 3:5-7).
Because church discipline can be such an unpleasant necessity of the work of the church, let me bring our attention to Hebrews 12:3-17 so we can bear this in mind as well.
3 For consider Him who has endured such hostility by sinners against Himself, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.
4 You have not yet resisted to the point of shedding blood in your striving against sin; 5 and you have forgotten the exhortation which is addressed to you as sons,
“My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord,
Nor faint when you are reproved by Him;
6 For those whom the Lord loves He disciplines,
And He scourges every son whom He receives.”
7 It is for discipline that you endure; God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom his father does not discipline? 8 But if you are without discipline, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate children and not sons. 9 Furthermore, we had earthly fathers to discipline us, and we respected them; shall we not much rather be subject to the Father of spirits, and live? 10 For they disciplined us for a short time as seemed best to them, but He disciplines us for our good, so that we may share His holiness. 11 All discipline for the moment seems not to be joyful, but sorrowful; yet to those who have been trained by it, afterwards it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness.
12 Therefore, strengthen the hands that are weak and the knees that are feeble, 13 and make straight paths for your feet, so that the limb which is lame may not be put out of joint, but rather be healed.
14 Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord. 15 See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled; 16 that there be no immoral or godless person like Esau, who sold his own birthright for a single meal. 17 For you know that even afterwards, when he desired to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no place for repentance, though he sought for it with tears.
3. Did Jesus and/or Paul teach us that we are not to judge others?
We have already answered this above from the Scriptures, but I wanted to bring it here in a concise response to show very clearly what Jesus and Paul taught.
First of all, (John 7:24) Jesus taught that we are not to judge according to appearances, but rather make righteous judgments.
Further, in 1 Corinthians 5 we read of Paul explicitly telling the Christians at Corinth that he had already judged the ones practicing sexual immorality.
Matthew 7:1-5
“Do not judge so that you will not be judged. 2 For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. 3 Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ and behold, the log is in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.”
Let us understand Jesus’ teaching. There is an entire Shakespeare play (Measure for Measure) that is derived from this teaching. Let us make sure we are not following Shakespeare, but rather our Lord Jesus.
- We will be judged by the standard of measure in which we judge others. Therefore, if we are hypercritical towards others then that same measure of judgment will be brought against us.
- This teaching is denouncing hypocritical judgment.
- Jesus is instructing His followers to examine themselves first and make sure they are not practicing sin, before they try to remove sin from someone else’s life. Using the “log” and the “speck” makes his point stronger. This would be like someone who is cheating on their taxes and fraudulently stealing money judging someone harshly for not paying their bill at the restaurant. Both are wrong, but Jesus is saying that the person who is cheating on their taxes and fraudulently stealing money from others needs to stop practicing these sins before they have the right to go to their brother about a sin they have committed.
- This teaching is brilliant. If we will all focus on ourselves first and foremost daily and be very strict with ourselves then we will be in a much better position to deal with our brothers in love, respect, and gentleness helping them if there is in fact a “speck” in their eye.
- Lastly, notice verse 5, it reinforces the fact that Jesus is not teaching that you cannot judge others, but rather instructing us how to go about judging our brothers.
a. Take the log out of your own eye.
b. Then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.
In Romans 2:1-11, Paul’s teaching mirrors Jesus’ teaching here in Matthew 7:1-5. Jesus and Paul are both condemning hypocritical judgment. We cannot judge others and practice the same thing we are judging them for. We will not escape the judgment of God in this manner.
Instead, we are to follow the teaching of John (1 John 1:5-10) and then help our brother remove the “speck” from his eye.
4. Therefore, how should we apply everything we have learned in this Q&A from God’s word to the current debate on homosexuality in the Methodist church?
A person who is practicing homosexuality should be removed from the congregation (1 Corinthians 5) until or unless they are willing to repent and stop practicing the sin.
The removal should not be done silently or forcefully or in a manner of hate, but rather with gentleness and respect, yet in all boldness it should be made clear that homosexuality is a sin, an abomination to the God that we are striving to love with all our heart, soul, and mind (Matthew 22:36-38) and therefore we cannot tolerate the practicing of sin in the church.
The purpose of this removal is the same purpose as Paul’s removal of the sexually immoral ones in the church at Corinth (1 Corinthians 5).
a. Discipline in an attempt to save the person who is practicing homosexuality.
b. Protect everyone else in the congregation from the spread of this sinful behavior.
It is also extremely important that I point out and remind us that in Romans 1:32 we learn of the seriousness of giving approval to those who practice sin. If our actions or judgments in any way give approval to the practicing of sin, then we should be fearful of judgment as well.
Trent Dean
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